July 5 2020

The History of Bluefin Tuna Fishing on Cape Cod


Welcome to another edition of the My Fishing Cape Cod Chronicles podcast. I'm your host Kevin Collins. In this podcast you'll learn about Cape Cod bluefin tuna fishing, and get a full Cape Cod fishing report from Ryan of MFCC.

We start by interviewing captain Jay Cianciolo, who is a My Fishing Cape Cod member and captain at Laura Jay Charters (which is based out of the Sandwich Marina at the canal's east end).


In this podcast you'll learn about the following topics:

  • The different tuna fisheries on Cape Cod (the Stellwagen fishery, Cape Cod Bay fishery, east of Chatham fishery) and how they have changed throughout the years
  • The culture of giant bluefin tuna fishing, and how it has changed throughout the years
  • Harpoon fishery and how its changed through the years
  • Hand-lining, and how it was safely done in the “old days”
  • The first rods, reels and lines - compared to modern day tackle
  • Lessons learned throughout the years
  • Plenty of helpful information listeners can use to become better tuna anglers

Captain Jay has been a member of My Fishing Cape Cod since 2014. Since that time he's contributed more than 290 posts to the forum. So far his posts have received more than 400 "Likes" from other members who have found his posts helpful.

At the end of the podcast, we take a call from Ryan of My Fishing Cape Cod to get his latest Cape Cod fishing reports.

This week Ryan fished the beaches of Cape Cod Bay and Wellfleet. He also shares with us info about the action around Monomoy, Vineyard Sound, Cape Cod Bay and Stellwagen.

Please click play below to listen now! Or scroll down to view the entire podcast transcript.

Podcast Transcript

Announcer 1 (00:02):
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Kevin (00:35):
Well, hello, and welcome to another edition of the My Fishing Cape Cod Chronicles here on myfishingcapecod.com. This is your host, Kevin Collins, back with you for episode number nine of the MFCC Chronicles, presented by the Goose Hummock and Cape and Islands Mitsubishi. As always, want to thank our friends down at the Goose, headlined by captain Phil, and over at Cape and Islands Mitsubishi, our good friend Bruno, who's been a podcast guest himself this season. We definitely send our thanks out to you, because without your support, the podcast wouldn't be possible.

Kevin (01:08):
So now that we got the housekeeping out of the way, let's dive right into the podcast. I want to welcome in Captain Jay Cianciolo of Laura Jay charters. Jay, how you doing?

Jay (01:17):
I'm doing great. Thanks. How are you doing today?

Kevin (01:18):
I understand you just got off the water this morning. How was that?

Jay (01:22):
That was great. We had a good striper trip this morning. Managed to get in. Had some really good fishing, and did our damage before the wind came up. So we had a really good morning on the bass.

Kevin (01:32):
Well, glad to hear it. We're going to talk about a wide variety of topics today, Captain Jay, but let's start all the way back at the beginning of your career, and even before that, just kind of how you got involved in fishing. Can you give us just a little background on where you grew up, how you get introduced into fishing, and give us a little bit of history of your family lineage in the fishing industry?

Jay (01:53):
Yeah, sure. I was sort of born into it, which was good. Like a lot of people. I started fishing when I was a little kid, but my grandfather was actually really into tuna fishing. He was actually one of the first guys in the US to get going with rod and reel for bluefin tuna fish, and fish for the giants. So he started fishing in the 40s, anywhere from Point Judas to... He chased them up to Maine, and kind of go up and down the coast there, wherever they were.

Jay (02:20):
My dad, of course, he grew up with it. And then, he's fishing with my grandfather, tuna fished his entire life, and then started running the charters on the Cape here probably 25, 30 years ago.

Jay (02:31):
And then I started. When I was a little kid, if I want to hang out with my dad and my grandfather, I'd go tuna fishing with them. So I started probably when I was five. I think I was on board for the first giant tuna when I was six. And I remember I caught my first one rod and reel in Cape Cod Bay when I was 13. And that was back when we had fighting chairs and stuff too. So kind of been at it for a little while now.

Kevin (02:56):
So you could definitely say tuna fishing is definitely not just in your blood, but it's been passed down through your family lineage over the years. So you've got a lot of expertise, Jay, in fishing tuna, especially in the waters off Cape Cod Bay. So that's going to be predominantly the focus of our podcast conversation here today.

Kevin (03:16):
And to start that off, one of the things I have written down here to talk with you about is just the different types of tuna fisheries off Cape Cod. You've got guys that go out on Stellwagen, you've got guys that fish for giant bluefin right here inside Cape Cod Bay. And then you've got the fishery out East of Chatham. And I know from talking to some other tuning captains, Jay, that the techniques and the way that people approach tuna in terms of live bait versus trolling different bars, it's different depending on where you're fishing. So can you just talk a little bit about those different fisheries?

Jay (03:49):
Yeah, definitely. Even if you look at Cape Cod Bay, that's a live bait fishery. I can't even remember anyone getting one trolling inside the Bay in a long time. So that's mostly, the fish come into the bay and they're feeding on either pogies or bluefish. So usually we're spreading out along some of the different depth contours in the areas where we just sort of know that they roam. And you're spreading out with the live baits and the kites, and waiting for them in there.

Jay (04:20):
And it's mostly a drift fishery. If you get up on Stellwagon, on the western edge, that's much more structure-oriented. You're anchoring up on the southwest corner, up in the middle bank spots, and you're really trying to get yourself on the edge, and there's more mackerel and herring that are rolling through there. And so you're fishing deeper up on the western part of Stellwagen.

Jay (04:44):
And then even the eastern part, where I had some of your family members out last Friday, we were fishing on the east part of Stellwagon, off the eastern edge there. And we were drifting, using the kites. And there were quite a few guys doing the run and gun thing, because it was a mixed bag of tuna. There were some big ones, there were some small ones. Some of the guys were run and gunning. We were live bait fishing out there. We hooked up to a nice one, probably about 90, 95 inches or so out there. And again, that was the live bait fishery there.

Jay (05:17):
When you get down to Chatham, Chatham is sort of a mixed bag. Some guys still troll a lot down there. They get out east of Chatham, and they do all trolling. And then a lot of guys are live bait fishing there as well.

Jay (05:27):
I got to be honest, I don't spend all that much time down in Chatham anymore. We used to. In the fall, there used to be a big bite down at the BB buoy, and we used to go take dockage at Saugatucket, and run down there for a bit. But I honestly haven't done that in a few years.

Jay (05:42):
But there's fish all over the Cape. Wednesday, I was actually south of the Fingers, south of Martha's Vineyard, because there was a bit of a giant bite going on down there. I think right now, the good thing on the Cape, this is really early in the year, and they are fishing every spot right now. All of those places I've mentioned have giants or mixed bag with some small fish kicking around too. It's really impressive how many fish are showing up this year, this early, which is a bit unusual. We're definitely ahead of schedule on the tuna front.

Kevin (06:11):
And Jay, when you talk about all these live bait fisheries, I know mackerel under a kite or mackerel under a balloon always seems to do the trick. A lot of people will use bluefish if they can get them, a nice big blue as live bait is about as good as you can get for a lot of guys who fish inside Cape Cod Bay. Am I missing anything on what you use for live bait? Is it pretty much just mackerel and blues?

Jay (06:35):
Mackerel, bluefish. Herring is very good too, if you can get that. And also, menhaden pogies. If you're in an area where you can get pogies, that's really effective. I'm probably giving up something I shouldn't here, but the last few days right up around Woodend and Provincetown, there has been some insane feeds with giants just destroying pogie schools up there. That was really big last fall, that they were up practically inside P-town Harbor.

Jay (07:03):
And that's happening again right now. There's some videos kicking around that one of my friends on one of the harpoon boats sent me that's just amazing, with 500 pound fish blowing pogies all over the place within sight of the beach.

Kevin (07:15):
So tuna fishing has kind of taken on a life of its own over the last decade, Jay. We've got Wicked Tuna on Nat Geo, which has become very popular. And I think the fascination with tuna has definitely kind of kicked up a notch along with the fascination of the Cape Cod great white sharks, with Dr. Greg Skomal down there, and doing all of his research.

Kevin (07:36):
So the tuna and the sharks have definitely taken center stage on Cape Cod throughout the last 10 years or so. Have you noticed kind of a boom in guys trying for giant bluefin, along with the popularity of Wicked Tuna and some of these other shows?

Jay (07:52):
Yeah. I think the shows have done a lot for it. It's kind of opened up people's eyes to it. I just think that there's the availability of the species. There's just a lot more fish around right now. The population is doing really well. The biomass numbers are up substantially. And I think you have the ability to go catch one, it's not tuna wishing anymore. I think guys can have a reasonable shot every day that they go out to hooking one. And I think there's just something about tuna. They are the size of cars, they go 50 miles an hour. It's the ultimate challenge.

Jay (08:33):
And also the availability. You don't have to go to the canyons, you don't have to steam a hundred miles. You can go six miles out of your harbor and hook something that will dump half of 130 in about a minute and a half. There's nothing like being hooked up to one of those things. So I think a lot more and more people are seeing it, and they're hearing about it, reading about it on the internet, and people posting articles and stuff. Posting their pictures. It really just makes people want to go chase after them.

Kevin (08:58):
And do you think that that added popularity in folks that are trying their hand at tuna fishing, because they're coming in in such great numbers, do you think it's putting any stress on the fishery, or do you still think it's a really healthy population that's coming here every year?

Jay (09:14):
Oh, I think it's a really healthy population. It's only getting bigger every year. The National Marine Fisheries does such a really stringent job of controlling the numbers of fish that are caught. We have the monthly quotas. Right now it's one fish per day. They have the catch rates under control.

Jay (09:33):
The big thing for Cape Cod Bay is, I think why we're seeing so many fish here as opposed to the past is, if I look at the timeline going back a little bit, in the 70s, 80s, and into the 90s, there were tuna seiners. There were five tuna seiners that were licensed on the East Coast. And they would all take their quota essentially from Cape Cod Bay. They could fish throughout the coast, but they would take the majority of the fish right in Cape Cod Bay in the fall, once the fish got fat. And I think that, where they were taking entire schools of fish at each set, I think that really did a number on the population.

Jay (10:13):
The tuna seiners have been out of business for the last 15 years, and every year we're seeing more and more fish coming back in. And with rod and reel boats taking one at a time, there is not that much pressure on the population as compared to the past. So I think that our fishery is really healthy, and I think it's only getting better.

Kevin (10:29):
Well, that's good to hear. And one of the other ways that you hinted on very briefly on how people fish for giant bluefin is the harpoon fishery. And that's something I literally know nothing about. I've seen a couple of videos and documentaries on these boats that go out and throw the darts instead of fishing spinning gear, and they have spotter pilots and the whole nine yards. Do you have any experience with that? Can you introduce me a little bit into that topic?

Jay (10:56):
Yeah, we haven't harpooned in a long time, but we used to have at one point, our two previous boats to the current Laura Jay were both set up for harpooning as well as rod and reel fishing. And it's really fun. Sometimes you work with a plane, but it's more like hunting, where you're out there cruising around, looking for signs of life, looking for them on the surface, looking for them when they get up and run on top. And you essentially try to sneak up behind them, and hit them with a harpoon.

Jay (11:30):
It's extremely challenging to take a fish that's probably going 10 knots, and you're going six knots, and try to figure out the refraction of light and where to throw, hit a moving target from up there when you're your adrenaline is absolutely jacked. And then sometimes with a plane assisting, you have an airplane talking to you from above to try to guide you in on them to hit them.

Jay (11:53):
So it's very challenging. The guys that are good at it are extremely talented, and it's not something I really do anymore, but it's really fun for the guys to get to do it. And very effective.

Kevin (12:05):
Going back even further, I know something that might have been probably before your time, but way back when the tuna fishery really became popular, and started here on Cape Cod, folks would go out in what, 12, 14, 16 foot Daughertys and hand line for tuna?

Jay (12:23):
Yeah. That was a crazy time, to go for a Nantucket sleigh ride hand lining. They were chumming from the dragger and then set their hand lines. So then if they hooked up, they'd throw a guy in a dory and let them pull the dory around with the guy on the hand line. It's dangerous stuff trying to hold onto a fish by hand. I was a little kid when they did it. So I can't honestly say that I ever got my hands on one of the lines myself. They just would tell me to stay the heck out of the way.

Jay (12:55):
But I imagine it would be really fun. I've often joked around about maybe bringing one with us just to try it for fun, but it's pretty dangerous. I like the rods and reels a lot better.

Kevin (13:10):
Along the lines of the rods and reels, I know that you're very into tackle, and you're very detail-oriented when it comes to tackle and techniques, whether you're tuna fishing, striper fishing, you take a lot of pride in that. Talk a little bit about your background on what you've got on the boat to go handle giant bluefins.

Jay (13:29):
Yeah. I'm a tackle geek. I get into the technical stuff behind it. So what I'd say is, the advances in tackle have really helped things and just made a lot of people a lot more efficient in catching fish. If you're into light tackle fishing, there was a time when there was no chance that you would ever get a giant on a spinning rod. And that happens every year now. There are people that not often, but there are people that can pull that off. I think if you're on standup tackle, you have a very good chance of landing a giant on standup if you're rigged up correctly.

Jay (14:10):
I still tend to use a lot of 130s, but even with my 130s, technology has changed, they're just longer, more flexible rods, where we don't pull as many hooks as we used to. It allows us to fish a lot lighter gear and smaller hooks, which should get us a lot more bites.

Jay (14:27):
I joke with my dad all the time, because he's really old school, and I've gotten him to come around, but we used to fight a lot about tackle. And I would sneak the different leaders out there, because he had in his mind what we needed to be fishing, and if I wanted to get bites, I would just lie to him and ended up fishing lighter stuff than what he thought we had out there. And so I had to convince him after we get fish in the boat with these tiny little hooks, and he finally came around.

Jay (14:53):
But I think the advance in tackle let you fish what much lighter gear, which is harder for the fish to see, and you get a lot more bites, and then you're able to put more fish in the boat. I think that's kind of the biggest thing that we've been able to figure out.

Kevin (15:05):
Yeah. And as the tackle and different techniques have evolved over the years, have you seen kind of a direct impact on not only yourself and your ability to land these fish, but just the general population, talking to other captains, talking to folks that may come to you for advice, is the success rate on landing these fish once you hook up, is it significantly better today than it was, say, 20 years ago?

Jay (15:31):
Yeah, definitely. I'd say the success rate for the guys that really know what they're doing is probably about the same, maybe a little bit better, but I think that with advancements in tackle, I think guys that are newer to it are able to get up to speed a little more quickly than they used to. I think there's just a lot more information that's available right now.

Jay (15:49):
If you look at your website there, if you go through that, there's enough articles that will... I kind of joke. I used to give Ryan a little bit of grief about it, that you can get up to speed reading his website pretty quickly. It probably saved me about 10 years out there failing on your own. But I think there's a lot of resources out there now that let people get up to speed a little more quickly. And I think that's really paying off for people. I think that's a good thing. If you go out, you invest a lot of money in a boat, you buy a bunch of tackle, I think you should be able to have a reasonable shot at catching a fish.

Kevin (16:22):
So along those lines, in the resources that My Fishing Cape Cod provides, with the expertise of yourself and Captain Cullen Lundholm, and Ryan with his experiences, like you said, a wealth of information available on the website, or by contacting any number of you guys through the website, for people that may have just acquired a boat, or may have had a boat here on Cape Cod, maybe they've got a 22 footer, and have been a little intimidated to go after tuna, but then hearing you talk today, knowing that you don't have to go out that far and steam 50 to a hundred miles, maybe they want to give it a try. So I guess my question is just along the lines of any tips that you could pass along for new tuna fishermen, looking to give it a try?

Jay (17:06):
Sure. Read everything you can. Read every article, watch every YouTube video that you can. Try to absorb as much info. But the biggest thing is get out with somebody that already knows what they're doing. You can save so much time by taking one trip with someone who does it a lot. Any of the guys that you mentioned will... I've done this a million times. Somebody will come out on the boat, they want to learn, they'll come out on a trip, and I'll make them a shopping list. You can just cut to it, show you exactly everything that's happening out there, how we're doing it. I won't hold back. And then make you go to Canal Bait or Goose Hummock and go buy everything you need, and then go replicate what you just saw. And any of the captains around here will do that for you.

Jay (17:56):
There's so much information that you can read and you'll learn a ton, and that's great, but there's no substitute for hands on to actually see how many feet you're actually putting that bait from the balloon, or if you have a weight in there, where does it go, and things like that. So I think a couple of quick hands on trips, and that will really cut down your learning curve, and you can get after it really fast on your own.

Kevin (18:20):
So let's talk a little bit about your business too, Jay. Laura Jay Charters. The website is Laurajay.com. Do you offer tuna charters? And what are the different seasons, where you guys for stripers versus tuna, or is it a mixed bag? Can you talk a little bit about what you guys offer in terms of charters?

Jay (18:39):
Normally we do a little bit of haddock fishing in the early spring, and then black sea bass down in Buzzards Bay when the season first opens in May and the beginning of June. We do primarily striper charters all summer long. And then in the fall, I start doing my tuna charters. In the past I've said September 1, just because that way, later in the year I know our batting average goes up so much higher. But this year we're starting to book tuna charters already because there's so many fish around.

Jay (19:10):
I never want to take people for a boat ride. If I don't think there's fish around, I won't book them for it out for a tuna charter. But in the last two trips, we hooked up both times. So they seem to be around and plentiful. So we're getting going from now, but on a day to day basis, we do quite a bit of striper charters.

Kevin (19:28):
For those interested in striper fishing, or potentially bluefin fishing with Captain Jay, the website is laurajay.com. And that'll have all the information to get in touch with you, right, Jay?

Jay (19:38):
Yep. We've got that, we've got the Facebook page and the Instagram, all of it at laurajaycharters.com.

Kevin (19:44):
And I know you're extremely active in My Fishing Cape Cod. You've been a member since 2014. So folks can hit you up in the forum as well.

Jay (19:51):
Absolutely, yeah. Shoot me a message. I probably talk more than I should.

Kevin (19:55):
That's what we like to hear. You're always willing to share your knowledge with the members. I know I appreciate it. I know so many of the members appreciate as well. I want to thank you for all the time and the knowledge that you shared with us today, Jay, and we'll look forward to having you on the podcast in years to come.

Jay (20:10):
Hey, great. Thanks a lot for having me.

Kevin (20:12):
Well, another big thank you to our podcast guest today, Captain Jay Cianciolo of Laura Jay Charters. But before we wrap up today's show, I want to take a moment to check in with MFCC founder and creator, Ryan Collins, who's about to join me on the phone. Ryan, how are you?

Ryan Collins (20:28):
I'm great, Kevin. I'm great. How are you?

Kevin (20:31):
Doing well. We just had a great chat with Captain Jay from Laura Jay Charters, but before we wanted to wrap up this edition to the My Fishing Cape Cod Chronicles, I wanted to check in with you because we haven't heard from you in a while. And I just want to hear a little bit about what's been going on in your world, and if you've been doing any fishing.

Ryan Collins (20:48):
Yeah. As far as fishing updates go, and to kind of [curl tail 00:20:56] off of what you and captain Jay talked about, which was tuna, I do know, and I haven't personally been out for tuna yet this year, but I'm hoping to change that over the next 10 days, but there have been some really impressive tuna feeds, maybe people have seen some videos circulating around Instagram and Facebook, of pogies. There's been plenty of pogies around, especially off of Race Point down the backside.

Ryan Collins (21:20):
And it's my understanding that at times there's been some tuna ripping through them, within site of shoreline. So there's definitely some tuna showing up. It seems like they were a little slow to arrive, but I am getting reports of rec sized fish as well as giants off of P-town and up by Stellwagen bank. So that's exciting. I know Kevin, you're probably chomping at the bit to get out for a tuna.

Kevin (21:44):
For sure. I've been doing a lot of striper fishing from shore, but I haven't done any tuna fishing this year. So that's definitely on the to do list.

Ryan Collins (21:51):
And your striper fishing is mostly been, I'm guessing, in Cape [Conde 00:21:57].

Kevin (21:56):

Ryan Collins (21:58):
And right now I think the bay is really starting to settle into that summertime routine. I haven't really been hearing too much about big, big action down off the flats. The last few years I know I personally did pretty well fishing the Brewster Flats from my boat, bringing live mackerel in there at high tide over the weed beds, et cetera, but have not heard much about that going on in Cape Cod Bay this year.

Ryan Collins (22:27):
The action I have heard about is coming out deep in the bay. Guys using radar to find birds. That's really difficult to do if you don't have radar. And I've stumbled across some of those big bass feeds in the middle of the bay before, way out in deep water. And it was just kind of by luck, by chance. But if you do have radar, if you're in Cape Cod Bay, keep an eye out, get it on bird finder mode, because you may stumble across one of those feeds out in the deep water.

Ryan Collins (22:57):
Aside from that, this is something I know you have plenty of experience with Kevin, in Cape Cod Bay is, tube and worm and bunker spoons. If you're looking for a real big fish, you can troll 50, 70 feet of water anywhere between the east side of the canal and Billingsgate. And this is something that we used to do a lot growing up, put bunker spoons out, 300 feet of wire, and just troll.

Ryan Collins (23:22):
And all day long, you might only get one or two bites, but it's going to be a big fish. And I remember locking in an entire day of trolling just for that one bite. But they are normally big fish when you're trolling tube and worm or bunker spoons out in the deep water in Cape Cod Bay.

Ryan Collins (23:41):
What else have you been up to, Kevin, besides doing some sort of casting in Cape Cod Bay?

Kevin (23:46):
I've been doing a little clamming, a little digging for some steamers, a little shell fishing, as the fish that I've been running into, Ryan, along shore, are mostly small fish.

Ryan Collins (23:57):
Right. Right. That's what I've been hearing in the forum from guys fishing, not just where you are in Cape Cod Bay, but also down the outer Cape. Like from Nassau to Race Point. I actually fished the Wellfleet beaches on Tuesday of this week. And we caught a couple of fish that were 10 inches long. They couldn't have been more than a year or two old. The way that we were fishing down there this past week was at night using [Joe back's waters 00:00:24:27] and [OSB minnows 00:24:27]. Really good lures to use from the beaches right now, if you're looking to just catch fish, especially at night.

Ryan Collins (24:36):
With regards to tides, I'm not an expert with the tides on the outer Cape beaches, but I get the sense that a higher tide is probably easier. You got more water at your feet that you can cast into, as opposed to low tide on those outer Cape beaches when you have the big sandbars.

Ryan Collins (24:57):
So it is promising to see some people in the forum posting that they've caught [schoolies 00:25:01] at places like Newcomb Hollow, up towards Race Point. Like I said, we found some schoolies this week fishing, the Wellfleet beaches as well. So lots of schoolies. That's always an option, but if you're looking to really spice things up this time of the year, that's when the sharks start moving in to the Vineyard Sound, the Nantucket Sound beaches. And that's something that you could try doing. And we have lots of information on the website, videos and articles about shark fishing from shore.

Ryan Collins (25:33):
I know Kevin, that you and I have talked about track fishing from shore in previous podcasts over the years. So there's lots of options here. I had a gentleman asked me about sea bass, and I know I'm just kind of blabbering here, Kevin, but I want to cover as much as I can during our phone call. If you're looking for a sea bass, I think they're mostly out deep by now. You know, the keepers are out probably 40, 50, 60 feet of water. You can definitely go down to places like No Man's Island off the Vineyard, probably 50 feet of water in Vineyard Sound. I'm not an expert at sea bass this time of year on vineyard sound, but that's where I would go if I was looking for a big sea bass. Have you been hearing much about the canal?

Kevin (26:17):
I haven't. I have a good buddy that lives down the road from me that's an MFCC member, our good buddy Eddie Podgurski, who sent me a nice photo of a keeper. It looked like it was right around 34 to 36 inches. And that was this past week. So I know that there definitely are some bigger fish in there, but I don't have a ton of information.

Ryan Collins (26:37):
Yeah. The bigger fish are in there. It's more like what the canal was when I was younger, which is the season people who know the holes and are willing to put the time in, as well as rookies, if you're willing to put the time and you can find a big fish down there. But those big, giant macro blitzes that everyone's been spoiled with have not really materialized as far as I know. And I live pretty close to the canal. So usually I get word when a big blitz is going off, and I haven't really been getting any calls about that.

Ryan Collins (27:17):
So it's a blessing in disguise. I think there's some big fish sneaking through the canal right now that are probably not getting the same amount of pressure on them. Although there have been some good crowds, don't get me wrong, but if you go down there at night and you're willing to jig the bottom and put the time in, you can definitely get a big fish.

Ryan Collins (27:38):
Some of my best fish growing up, I remember July 4th weekend. I think I was 19 years old, down towards the west end around the Bourne Bridge, nine inch black sluggo, four ounce lead head, bouncing it on the bottom. Had one night, July 4th, I think maybe seven or eight fish between 20 and 40 pounds all by myself at night. So those sorts of things can definitely happen right now. So if you're not hearing about the big bass blitzes, I personally think it's kind of a blessing in disguise.

Ryan Collins (28:11):
If you do want to fish during the daytime at the canal, I've seen in the forum, there's been a few guys who have been chunking. And I fished with Cooper Marks, he's an 11 year old. Actually, he just turned 12 years old this past week. I went fishing with him and his dad. And Cooper, he told me that he's been chunking the canal during the day time using mackerel chunks. And he's been catching fish, including a few slot size fish. So chunking is definitely an option if you want to fish during the daytime. And I have a friend Jeff Coates, who you know, he used to primarily chunk during the middle of the day. So that's something to definitely consider.

Ryan Collins (28:55):
And one more thing before we wrap up here, Kevin, the Monomoy Rips, I've noticed quite a few people are posting in the forum that they've gotten fish up to 40 inches in the rips. We had a group trip go to the rips, maybe seven or eight days ago. They did well. So there are some nice fish at the rips. And while you're out there, you could try for fluke, fish 40 feet of water or more.

Ryan Collins (29:21):
And we have a blog post that went out this week, all about targeting doormat fluke in deep water. So if you're interested in doing that while you're out at the rips fishing for stripers, you could also devote some time to try and for a big fluke, because they are being caught. I think that's about all I got for you, Kevin.

Kevin (29:41):
A wealth of information. Thank you for sharing it on the podcast. Hopefully catch up with you again soon. This was a treat.

Ryan Collins (29:48):
Yeah, it would be great to keep this going. I know things have been a little different this year with podcasting, but we got to keep it going. So I would love to talk with you again soon.

Kevin (29:59):
Thanks to MFCC founder and creator Ryan Collins, for stopping in and joining us on today's podcast. We also want to go back and thank our featured guest, Captain Jay Cianciolo of Laura Jay Charters for sharing so much of his time and expertise on today's show. Really enjoyed my chat with Jay, and hope to get him on the podcast again soon.

Kevin (30:19):
That's going to put the wraps on this edition of the My Fishing Cape Cod Chronicles podcast, sponsored by the Goose Hummock Shops and Cape and Islands Mitsubishi. Want to thank everybody for listening, and hope everybody has a healthy and enjoyable and safe Independence Day weekend. Happy 4th of July, everybody. And until we meet again, tight lines and take care.

Announcer 1 (31:04):
Thanks for listening to the My Fishing Cape Cod Chronicles podcast. From all of us here at My Fishing Cape Cod, tight lines and take care.

Announcer 2 (31:14):
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About the author 

Kevin Collins

Kevin spent a decade with the New England Patriots and New England Revolution producing podcasts and other digital content. Currently he is the host and producer of the podcasts here on My Fishing Cape Cod. Kevin grew up on the beach in Plymouth, MA and has salt water running through his veins.

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